From OK to Dismal in six months

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  • ravenflight

    Jennie "may mean well"?

    "If others are happy to go down with the sinking ship, fine that is their choice"?

    How gracious. Jennie is the only one, as far as I can tell, who has been offering practical solutions (moreover, in a non-whining, generous, constructive manner), and to suggest that "she may mean well" (SUBTEXT: God help that silly cow?) falls short of a fair comment, doesn't it? As for people who "are happy to go down with the sinking ship, fine that's their choice" - have you considered the possibility that they simply aren't as bitter and negative as you seem to believe they ought to be, and like to stick around hoping the place they feel at home in will eventually get its act together?

    Sorry, constructive criticism is more than justified of site owners who for months haven't measured up. I've written comments myself that try to address that. But being dismissive of, and dishing out insults to people who don't share your approach? That I'm not so sure about. If you have decided for yourself that somewhere else is a more acceptable "life raft" for you, that's great. What isn't perhaps so great is suggesting that anyone who doesn't share the extent of your bitterness - and, instead, offers positive feedback and advice - is naive, foolish or gets aroused by going down on sinking ships.

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  • Ariella Haverguess

    That is about as far from my intent as it is possible to get. Jennie is one of the few who has anything sensible to say and I have the utmost respect for her. It is a shame that the lucid suggestions she has made are ignored by the site operators.

    As for being bitter at having lost the best part of a years work, you bet I am! I do believe this is a sinking ship but that does not make those who wish to stay with it foolish or stupid. It is simply a choice. I have made a different one and said why. It was not a dig at those who make other choices.

    The problem with reading "between the lines" is you are apt to read things that are not there and were never intended to be there. I certainly do not believe nor do I wish to imply anyone is "foolish or naive" or has some peculiar fetish simply on the basis of the choices they make about what site to frequent.

    I wish everyone here the very best regardless of their choices, yourself included.

    Regards

    Ariella

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  • Abigail West

    The other side of that argument is that BDSMLR is not free. The owners are profiting every day, adding more and more ads which seem to be working very well while the site circles the drain. How do we pay, you may ask? Well there are people who actually pay a subscription. Then there is the toll that we pay, emotionally. Call me a snowflake if you want, but I have paid for something when I find that content I've spent hours creating has just vanished and if I can even get support to respond to me, their response is nothing more than a written shrug. Then there is the time and energy that goes into creating content. That is how we pay; through our hard work and emotional investment in creating great content and curating a popular blog. BDSMLR may masquerade as a "free" site, but it is not. Ask a content creator. Ask someone who actually a subscription fee to get rid of ads, but now sees ads.

    Don't let sites like this fool you into thinking that because you don't hand them money every month that you're not paying. The free model is an agreement between the site operators and its creators. We create the content that drives ad revenue. They wouldn't earn a dime in profit if it weren't for the content creators. For the owners/devs to treat their users this way as they continue to earn money from ads is inexcusable. I've seen click-bait, referral-loop-hell porn sites function smoother than BDSMLR.

    I tried to continue through The Big Crash or whatever stupid mythology we're attaching to the event that was the actual end of BDSMLR. I couldn't. I paused my queue and left. I returned in May and have, yet again, watched the site deteriorate over the past month. I've paused my queue again as it stopped posting randomly (an array with a random seed, come on guys), and then it stopped posting at all a few days ago. I'm definitely not going to let my work go directly into the abyss; at least, previously, it was posted just to circle the abyss, with a slight chance it wouldn't be deleted or vanish without explanation.

    No one from BDSMLR is even reading anything in this community. We're all just agreeing with each other that the place has gone to shit and hoping that one of the site operators will see it; I don't think they ever will because they refuse to look.

    Stop giving them money. Stop refreshing your broken dashboard 20 times and creating ad revenue. The only way they'll pay attention is if the money stops coming in as they sit back and laugh.

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  • Abigail West

    ravenflight

    You put words into Ariella's mouth. You also called anyone complaining here a whiner if I am to use your approach and simply read "implication" into every line you've written. Silly cow? Ariella didn't say that... you did.

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  • ravenflight

    Abigail West - Thanks for your comment. Two points, if I may.

    First, I didn't actually "call anyone a whiner" who was "complaining here". I said Jennie, in her posts, chooses a "non-whining" approach. If you read that to imply I took some of Ariella's remarks for a kind of whining, you are not way off the mark. But that's not "anyone", that's Ariella. Her clarification above, particularly the fine things she said about Jennie's contributions, now shows that in interpreting someone's comments I don't always offer the benefit of the doubt as freely as would be fair.

    Second, the "silly cow" remark was preceded by "SUBTEXT" and concluded by a question mark. It was my condensed way of suggesting that what we put out there may easily be misunderstood if it's not phrased with great care. In that sense, I didn't put words into anyone's mouth - but it seems I interpreted verbatim quotes to mean something they weren't intended to convey. That's something we all do once in a while :-)

     

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  • Jennie

    <Mom hat>

    Everyone step back and a take a deep breath now...

    There's whining, there's righteous anger, there's constructive criticism, and there's helpfulness.

    Whining is when you offer nothing useful and refuse to engage in any meaningful conversation. Whining is when my 6 year-old stomps her feet and says "It's not faaaaaaaiiiiiir!" I've seen comments like that here. But not from the people on this thread.

    Strive for helpfulness. Show constructive criticism. Vent (and appropriately direct) your anger. Don't whine.

    </Mom hat>

    I probably won't be on again until after the 17th. (Vacation).

     

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  • ravenflight

    @Jennie - Most sensible thing I've read in a while, and what makes it exceptional is the html notation thing - <Mom hat>made me laugh out loud</Mom hat> :-)

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  • Teas & Denial

    Enjoy your vacation Jennie!

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  • Uncle Dirty54

    Check out Flikr also...it's moderated but only to the extent that they'll classify a photo as NSFW instead of Family friendly. Other than that you can post just about anything that's not illegal. And it's much more reliable than the bdsmlr train wreck

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  • John Blank

    I don't have the technical knowledge to offer constructive solutions. Unfortunately, all I can do is point out the problems. I have noted in several comments that bdsmlr is free to the users, and that fact keeps me from being too acerbic here. Still, this is what I've been seeing when I click on any blog on the list of what I follow:

    An error occurred during a connection to (blog name). PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

    I don't like to switch around porn sites. Not only is there some great stuff on bdsmlr, but each site has its own organization. I'm reluctant to climb those learning curves, but bdsmlr appears to be in a downward spiral and without any visible efforts to fix it. Soon, I might have no choice but to move to New Trumblr. I have no idea what has caused bdsmlr's owners to abandon the site, but this is what it looks like they've done.

    On the "whining" front, there's another way to look at it. The fact of complaints should tell the owner(s) that people want the site to exist and to be fixed. No fun to be the target of complaints, but they show an ongoing opportunity. From that view, the worst thing would be if no one "whined." People don't complain unless they give a shit.

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