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  • super-trafalgar

    OK, 1 week later and a new behaviour has been added. Here is the "Release Note" posted about it.

    "6th August 2020
    We have always deleted the reblogs as well when the original post has been deleted (this is due to privacy, the nature of the site and the very sensitive material posts can include) and till today they simple vanished while viewing the blog which has not been ideal. However from now on we will show a notification about the deleted post. If you're the blog owner you have the possibility to remove the reblog as well.

    Point of this update is to clear up the confusion about disappearing posts which some of you have had (and which we fully understand)"

    It is very nice that BDSMlr have responded to the problem I raised, so thank you!

    HOWEVER! It is not what I envisaged you were going to do, unless I misunderstand how this works.

    Here is the scenario, as I understand it.

    1. User A makes a post. Lets say it contains a picture - although, in theory it can be anything, text, picture, video, etc, etc - We'll call the picture P1 and call the whole post, Post1. Logically. Post1 = P1

    2. User B reblogs it, and adds a caption which we'll call "C". We'll call this Post2. Logically Post2 = Post1+C = P1 + C.

    3. Post P1 is deleted. (This can be for a variety of reasons... Either UserA did it themselves, or else BDSMlr did it, because, P1 violated TOU.)

    4. Old behaviour:

     i.) Post1 disappears (i.e. P1 has gone.)

    ii) Post 2 disappears (i.e. C has gone)

    No notification it happened to either UserA or UserB. Of course, if UserA deleted it themselves, then they don't need to be notified, and either has a back-up of P1 or doesn't care about it. User B however, will have no idea it has gone, and worse will have lost caption C. 

    5 New behaviour:

    5a) Post1 gets converted to a new post, call it Post1X which just contains a dummy picture (call it "D"). Logically Post1X = D. (As before P1 is gone.)

    5b) Post2 gets converted to a new post, call it Post2X which also containst just the dummy picture. (Logically: Post2X = Post1X = D) (As before C has gone.)

    So now UserA and UserB know that the post has gone. That's good - especially for UserB. (As noted previously it's not really a problem for UserA, since they deleted it themselves. And if it was violation of TOS, then we don't care that much if they lose P1 without a backup.)

    However, UserB still has lost caption C! Through no fault of his own! It was either (UserA deleting it, or BDSMlr deleting it.)

    Also, as a fairly important side-note, UserB, unless they have back up the whole of their blog, or just happens to have memorised each and every post they made, does not know what post it was that was deleted.  

    So if this is really how it works, then it does not solve the problem at all! What I imagined would happen is that Step 5b would be this:

    5b) Post2 gets converted to a new post, call it Post2X which is Post1X + C (Logically: Post2X  = Post1X + C = D + C ) 

    Crucially caption C is not gone now! (Which is fair, because UserA should not be able to delete content created by UserB.) Furthermore, UserB at least knows that the picture they based their post Post2 on is now no longer there and isn't left with a "deleted post" which they have no idea what caption it may have contained.

    Hope that's understandable! And also hope you can see why it's important.

    - Caption C can be really big and have involved a lot of work and a lot of people may have liked it.

    - It's not just userB that's affected: maybe UserC has then re-blogged UserB's Post 2, with their own caption C2. That also disappears! (and so on, recursively... for the whole tree downstream from User A's original post Post1.)

     

     

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  • Support Bdsmlr

    super-trafalgar

    The update we did is not addressing your feature request. We will look into it in time but to clear up the possible confusion, it has nothing to do with it.

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