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    Support BDSMLR

    We can't support it yet as there is no reliable WEBP to GIF transformation what we have found to work reliably in 100% of cases. When we do we will bring it on board.

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  • Slutbane

    Webp is a pain. I know they are supposed to be more space efficient, but you cant do much with them. I use an online converter to change them back to jpeg or gif, but that's extra hassle. I have my settings  set to use jpeg and gif, but sometimes they still appear as webp

    And my version of Photoshop cant handle them either

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  • james robinson

    Slutbane you shouldn't have to use an online converter, you can simply change the prefix yourself but if you do have a bulk amount you can simply convert all of your files within literally a matter of seconds using a program. 

    Yes WebP files are more space efficient and have been growing in popularity especially for those who host content. As a content creator I don't mind the few seconds it takes to save space. This would simply be an additional option for content creators, not an all images must be in Webp format request. Users who prefer not to use WebP files or simply can't would not be affected.

    Gif files were created back in the 80's but didn't become popular until the 2000's. As time goes on we will see the same thing with WebP or another file format as media continues to consume more and more storage space.

     

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  • Slutbane

    Thanks James. You cant simply change the webp suffix to jpg. If only it was that easy! Can you recommend a conversion program? I searched for that before finding an online option, but couldn't find anything that looked usable. Command line interfaces went out 30 years ago.

    I remember gifs from my days using CompuServe - they invented it. Pretty horrible except for animation

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  • james robinson

    Slutbane I use Bulk Rename Utility to change the suffix, it takes only a second to change my files. It can process thousands of files at once in a matter of seconds. It is a easy to use and free program. It looks complicated but its really easy to change files extensions quickly.

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  • Slutbane

    Jame, you are quite right, that does indeed work for jpegs. Thanks for that. That rather implies that webp and jpeg are pretty similar formats.

    unfortunately that doesn't work for gifs  (obviously animated gifs - gif is pretty useless for stills)

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  • james robinson

    Slutbane Yes Gif files from WebP are not so simple. I also use a program called Eagle Cool for image management and they just released an update that includes Webp conversion for jpeg and png. Eagle Cool is also a free program.

    Not long ago I converted WebM files to .gif using the Bulk Rename Utility. As time goes on I think we will find more support for these file formats.

     

     

     

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  • Slutbane

    Eagle Cool - I will look for it. Thanks. I have always been impressed with Faststone

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  • james robinson

    Faststone reminds me of Acdsee, I have been enjoying Eagle since it makes tagging and finding images super quick and has some basic image editing capabilities. 

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  • Slutbane

    I tried Eagle. Am not impressed. First it tried to get through my firewall. Why? Second, every image was put into a separate folder with a thumbnail copy. I realise they will add edited copies, but tat's a HUGE space overhead. I shall stick with Faststone, which is truly excellent, and not based in China. Very responsive - I asked about webp support for an earler version, and got a very quick and positive response.

    So good, in fact, that I made a voluntary donation. It doesn't give any extra features, but it does give you the satisfaction of saying thankyou

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  • james robinson

    Glad you took a look at it and I completely understand sticking with Faststone. I'll have to look into the firewall issue for myself as I did not encounter that when initially acquiring the program. Finding a program that you enjoy so much that your willing to contribute financially is an awesome experience, im glad you found one you love so much. 

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  • wm4afs

    Back to the original response from the bdsmlr team, is a WEBP-to-GIF converter necessary? I think the ask is to just support WEBP natively; so images that are uploaded in WEBP would be viewed in WEBP. 

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  • Slutbane

    WebP is still a minority format, jpeg and gif being by far the most popular formats. My Adobe Photoshop Elements will not handle WebP. If I download WebP gifs I have to use an online converter to get them in a usable format. Can be done, but it's a pain.  For stills, Faststone can happily save WebP as jpeg, and in fact one can just change the suffix from webp to jpg and use as is.

    The size reduction is not enormous, although I can see that if a server has tens of thousands of images, the small savings add up. AFAIK, BDMSLR is the only site using WebP currently

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  • Support BDSMLR

    Slutbane

    Actually majority of the websites which are using animated gifs are using WebP's when they are serving the content, they do it just like we do, if your device can support it, the content is then automatically converted. Bandwidth difference is why it is done, it speeds up page loads and lightens up server loads, the difference is enourmous. It is not a new technology anymore either and it has been use in multiple platforms for years.  

    wm4afs The point is that as they do not work in every device, they can't be used. That will break the site for some and therefore it is unacceptable and a no go for us. Until there's a 100% fix for it, only then we can accept the uploads.

     

     

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